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	<title>Comments on: Oracle 11g SQL Plan Management &#8211; SQL Plan Baselines</title>
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		<title>By: SQL Plan Management &#124; IT World</title>
		<link>http://kerryosborne.oracle-guy.com/2009/04/oracle-11g-sql-plan-management-sql-plan-baselines/#comment-78526</link>
		<dc:creator>SQL Plan Management &#124; IT World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 14:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Oracle 11g SQL Plan Management – SQL Plan Baselines [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ora_dba</title>
		<link>http://kerryosborne.oracle-guy.com/2009/04/oracle-11g-sql-plan-management-sql-plan-baselines/#comment-76669</link>
		<dc:creator>ora_dba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kerry. I did a similar test in 11.2.0.2. It is true that outlines still overrides baselines as of this version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kerry. I did a similar test in 11.2.0.2. It is true that outlines still overrides baselines as of this version.</p>
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		<title>By: osborne</title>
		<link>http://kerryosborne.oracle-guy.com/2009/04/oracle-11g-sql-plan-management-sql-plan-baselines/#comment-76264</link>
		<dc:creator>osborne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 04:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes,

  Outlines override Baselines even in 11gR2 (at least as of 11.2.0.2).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes,</p>
<p>  Outlines override Baselines even in 11gR2 (at least as of 11.2.0.2).</p>
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		<title>By: ora_dba</title>
		<link>http://kerryosborne.oracle-guy.com/2009/04/oracle-11g-sql-plan-management-sql-plan-baselines/#comment-75984</link>
		<dc:creator>ora_dba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 16:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kerry, does a stored outline still take precedence over baselines in Oracle 11gR2? Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kerry, does a stored outline still take precedence over baselines in Oracle 11gR2? Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: rom27a</title>
		<link>http://kerryosborne.oracle-guy.com/2009/04/oracle-11g-sql-plan-management-sql-plan-baselines/#comment-61979</link>
		<dc:creator>rom27a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 23:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kerry,

here&#039;s the connex between dba_sql_plan_baselines and v$sql: 

select s.*, b.* 
  from dba_sql_plan_baselines b, 
       v$sql s 
  where s.exact_matching_signature = b.signature 
    and s.sql_plan_baseline = b.plan_name;

Thx 4 your great Blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kerry,</p>
<p>here&#8217;s the connex between dba_sql_plan_baselines and v$sql: </p>
<p>select s.*, b.*<br />
  from dba_sql_plan_baselines b,<br />
       v$sql s<br />
  where s.exact_matching_signature = b.signature<br />
    and s.sql_plan_baseline = b.plan_name;</p>
<p>Thx 4 your great Blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Outline, SQL profile and SQL Plan Management(SPM) &#171; Oracle Explorer: Standing on the shoulders of giants</title>
		<link>http://kerryosborne.oracle-guy.com/2009/04/oracle-11g-sql-plan-management-sql-plan-baselines/#comment-49144</link>
		<dc:creator>Outline, SQL profile and SQL Plan Management(SPM) &#171; Oracle Explorer: Standing on the shoulders of giants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the stored SPB http://kerryosborne.oracle-guy.com/2009/04/do-sql-plan-baselines-use-hints-take-2/ http://kerryosborne.oracle-guy.com/2009/04/oracle-11g-sql-plan-management-sql-plan-baselines/   GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;AdOpt&quot;, &quot;1&quot;); GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;Origin&quot;, &quot;other&quot;); GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;theme_bg&quot;, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Oracle 11g &#8211; How to force a sql_id to use a plan_hash_value using SQL Baselines &#171; RNM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oracle 11g &#8211; How to force a sql_id to use a plan_hash_value using SQL Baselines &#171; RNM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to Kerry Osborne again, and his article about SQL Plan Baselines. He (and others) write in detail about how and what SQL Plan Baselines are, but in essence it lets [...]</description>
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		<title>By: osborne</title>
		<link>http://kerryosborne.oracle-guy.com/2009/04/oracle-11g-sql-plan-management-sql-plan-baselines/#comment-45168</link>
		<dc:creator>osborne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jan,

Yeah, it&#039;s very closely related. The Outline object consists of a set of hints that is applied to a statement and is similar to a SQL Profile and a Baseline. But they are stored in different ways and presumably use different code paths (although some of the code may be the same). At any rate, Outlines have been documented as deprecated since 11.1 (from the 11gR2 Database Upgrade Guide - &quot;The use of stored outlines is deprecated in Oracle Database 11g Release 1 (11.1).&quot;) I&#039;d definitely prefer to use SQL Profiles or Baselines at this point.

The ADVANCED option on dbms_xplan.display_cursor spits out the content of the OTHER_XML field in V$SQL_PLAN. It is the set of hints that Oracle thinks are necessary to recreate the plan. I&#039;ve written about that somewhere on this blog. 

Kerry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jan,</p>
<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s very closely related. The Outline object consists of a set of hints that is applied to a statement and is similar to a SQL Profile and a Baseline. But they are stored in different ways and presumably use different code paths (although some of the code may be the same). At any rate, Outlines have been documented as deprecated since 11.1 (from the 11gR2 Database Upgrade Guide &#8211; &#8220;The use of stored outlines is deprecated in Oracle Database 11g Release 1 (11.1).&#8221;) I&#8217;d definitely prefer to use SQL Profiles or Baselines at this point.</p>
<p>The ADVANCED option on dbms_xplan.display_cursor spits out the content of the OTHER_XML field in V$SQL_PLAN. It is the set of hints that Oracle thinks are necessary to recreate the plan. I&#8217;ve written about that somewhere on this blog. </p>
<p>Kerry</p>
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		<title>By: Jan van Mourik</title>
		<link>http://kerryosborne.oracle-guy.com/2009/04/oracle-11g-sql-plan-management-sql-plan-baselines/#comment-45165</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan van Mourik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kerry,

Above you say &quot;I’m starting to worry about Outlines getting buggy due to lack of attention.&quot;. It seems though that SPM is using outlines to (re)generate the plans. The data in sys.sqlobj$data.comp_data is basically an outline. It has the same info you would get if you run &quot;select * from table(dbms_xplan.display_cursor(&#039;&amp;sqlid&#039;,&amp;child_number,&#039;ADVANCED&#039;))&quot; and look at the outline data.
Thought that was interesting... Maybe you don&#039;t need to worry :-)

Jan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kerry,</p>
<p>Above you say &#8220;I’m starting to worry about Outlines getting buggy due to lack of attention.&#8221;. It seems though that SPM is using outlines to (re)generate the plans. The data in sys.sqlobj$data.comp_data is basically an outline. It has the same info you would get if you run &#8220;select * from table(dbms_xplan.display_cursor(&#8216;&amp;sqlid&#8217;,&amp;child_number,&#8217;ADVANCED&#8217;))&#8221; and look at the outline data.<br />
Thought that was interesting&#8230; Maybe you don&#8217;t need to worry :-)</p>
<p>Jan</p>
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		<title>By: osborne</title>
		<link>http://kerryosborne.oracle-guy.com/2009/04/oracle-11g-sql-plan-management-sql-plan-baselines/#comment-40112</link>
		<dc:creator>osborne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 20:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Paul,

  I&#039;ll give that a look when I have a few minutes.

Kerry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Paul,</p>
<p>  I&#8217;ll give that a look when I have a few minutes.</p>
<p>Kerry</p>
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